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 Being that IBM is in the software industry and have everything you need to build a website like this, why are you using aha.io?  There are many features in this that we already had in the Domino-based website called http://ideajam.net that was created more than a decade ago and has most if not all of the functionality of this website and additional features as well, like Top Innovators.  If you don't , then you're failing at the whole purpose of Notes/Domino: the ability to rapidly create a workflow app at a lower TCO than buying a 3rd party app.

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  • Jul 17 2018
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    Guest commented
    07 May 16:16

    I agree with Poster and David.

    It's called "eating your own dog food."

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    Guest commented
    10 Jan 22:48

    The guest who said this idea is about what platform to use rather than specifically using IdeaJam, was totally correct.  (And a short digression on that point:  IdeaJam is a solid platform and would make a good foundation to build upon. The argument that it is not viable because it was first developed 10 years ago is proven wrong time after time with apps written decades ago that so many companies still use today.)

    When I worked at Microsoft, they had a very strict policy against using externally-written software.  If you needed a tool, you built it in-house.  This is how many of their products and tools in the market today were born and why they have such a broad spectrum of software.  IBM has held the opposite philosophy and you see where it got them (go look at the graph of each company's stock prices.)  IBM especially never nurtured the Domino app ecosystem  which is partly why the software doesn't have the footprint it could.

    @Thomas: I get it.  You're a startup company.  You don't have the resources to build everything you need right now.  But don't let that dictate your long term vision.  As for the notion that Aha is a better specific purpose-built application than anything you could develop in-house, that too is the same argument made every single time someone suggests building an app in Domino.  Every. Single. Time.

    Given the proliferation of 3rd party specialized apps and the cloud SaaS model that Domino is competing against, in effect, that amounts to saying is Domino is done.

    If the only value you see derived from creating the app in Domino is to get a replacement for aha, then you are missing the bigger picture that is the superpower of Domino:  When you create this app for HCL, you are also creating an asset that could be included in the Domino templates FOR FREE and turn Domino into the SaaS app-killer where people would quit buying subscriptions to SaaS apps like Aha because they can get it for free with Domino. 

    And because it's a Domino template, even if the app isn't exactly what they need, people can easily reuse the code and get a big head start toward creating whatever app they need.

     That is how Domino will become the SaaS app-killer or replacement platform of choice.  Domino has the potential to kill off practically every existing SaaS website out there, even Salesforce. 

    No one buys Domino because they want a Domino server.  They buy Domino because of the apps they will run on it.  By HCL building apps in Domino you are also building the future of Domino. That is how Domino will win the app war.  

    -David Hablewitz

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    Thomas Hampel commented
    10 Jan 21:17

    Please take a look at the sales pitch of Aha.io and let me know when you can provide an nsf version with all of this functionality.

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    Guest commented
    09 Jan 12:48

    I smell a sales-pitch from Bruce :-)

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    Thomas Hampel commented
    07 Jan 10:56

    The idea management process is more complex and thus, at least near term, we are going to stay with the Aha.io platform.

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    September 25, 2018 11:52

    @Thomas Hampel: I believe the original intent was more about "using your own tools" than using the IdeaJam template in particular.  You're trying to push Domino as low/no code again, so why wouldn't you take the best from IdeaJam and aha.io and roll your own version?  Let's face it, there is at least one company out there still gunning to end Notes/Domino and they won't hesitate to point out that this site isn't using the platform you're pushing.  As someone once said, perception is everything.  Given the relatively short amount of time between HCL coming on board and releasing a new version of Domino, people would probably give you a pass for using an existing tool for the short term while you focused efforts on platform improvement.  I would strongly suggest that you consider using Domino to replicate, and hopefully improve, this site ASAP after V10 rolls out.  It would send a great message and show people what can be done with the product. 

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    Thomas Hampel commented
    September 24, 2018 18:49

    @David : Take a look at the main website of Aha ( https://www.aha.io ) or take a tour to see the platform features ( https://www.aha.io/product/overview ), then you'll know why we have decided to use Aha.io instead of using the well known ideajam template. 

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    July 19, 2018 02:51

    I’d argue that by merit a 10yr old app is not likely the best one to do this exercise - by definition. Also reverting those 10-ur old suggestions is a viable fresh-start - afterall, it was 10yrs ago and many things thankfully have evolved.

    That said, indeed this tool is more that slightly lightweight on forum features and a proven one on the market - that has also been used by ibm developerworks is answerhub.com .. which allows for a much better feature set. (It also was the base app for Atlassian forums in their big appDev and growth uptick.. it is a viral forum and community builder app with a much richer feature set than this).

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    July 18, 2018 13:24

    I agree.  The filtering, searching do not work as expected.  After you search there isn't a way to clear your search.  The filtering on the left side shows a count that doesn't add up and shows different results without an explanation.