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Make Notes/Domino free for companies with under 10 or 20 or even 50 users

with no support by default,  but with the option to purchase support & maintenance.  Only IBM has the numbers to gauge the cost of this but it has to be a fraction of yearly income from Notes. However it would have the potential to:
- Entice more customers/people into the Notes eco system
- Grow the number of people who understand admin and app dev in Notes
   (a larger no of smaller customers will likely yield more of these people, who become DIY'ers due to cost)
- These people become available to be hired by larger customers, who face a shortage of supply
- Retain/grow business partners, who can offer run your business suites of apps and affordable bespoke apps

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  • Guest commented
    21 Feb 08:54pm

    Remember, the Japanese in venturing into the luxury automobile market segment, sold Lexus vehicles at a loss for five years, just to create market share for their new vehicles. Why? Toyota knew well that when a competitor loses market share, it is very difficult to reacquire it. From that wisdom, they took a significant slice of the revenue pie to became a major player.

    HCL is looking to recapture the SMB market squandered by a previous owner's mismanagement--respectfully. Domino-I-173 helps move HCL in that direction in a major way. Thank you for the idea.

  • Guest commented
    25 Jan 11:34am

    For me this suggestion belongs for very, very small companies and more common to small developer teams that are sometimes very few users only. These developer teams work for bigger companies anyway and thus they can legally use a server.

  • Guest commented
    28 Oct, 2021 04:22am

    This was first posted July 2018. It is marked as "Likely to implement". It's been over 3 years. If you're serious about getting companies to buy into your product who currently don't use it, this is the way to do it. Get them hooked while they're small. If they grow and become successful, you will have the inside track on keeping them as a paid customer and they will be your best advocates to sell you to other people. Panagenda already does this with MarvelClient. Do it with Domino. But don't go more than 10 or so licenses. This is called a sales funnel. Want to understand this highly successful strategy? Read the book "DOTCOM Secrets" by Russell Brunson. Or just keep doing what you've always done, but don't expect different results.

    -David Hablewitz

  • Guest commented
    12 Jul, 2021 05:44pm

    This request is open for about 3 years. Status "Likely to implement".

    Is anyone really so naive to believe that HCL will offer a small (maybe 5-100) user verion for free?

  • Guest commented
    2 Sep, 2020 04:32am

    Great Idea, We in the open source world, atleast provide free licenses for Lotus notes lovers to continue to work on their free time and build products and productive apps

  • Guest commented
    21 Jul, 2020 08:46am

    I agree, or at the very least a very cheap option under £30 per year per use for up to 50 or so users. The service must be full enterprise service notes-client and http, with e-mail, traveler, custom apps and clustering.

    I think Ad-ons such as Sametime, connections, LDAP/single sign-on etc could be charged a premium

  • Guest commented
    19 Jun, 2020 12:04pm

    Gotta be honest. I don't think this is a good idea but I would support much lower maintenance costs for Small businesses. Can't give stuff away and still be in business.

  • Guest commented
    16 Apr, 2020 02:51pm

    This is the best idea i have ever heard. Amazing . Thanks

  • Guest commented
    3 Jun, 2019 03:37pm

    Yes, a free community edition much like Microsoft does with Visual studio would be very well received.

  • Guest commented
    2 May, 2019 08:57pm

    The applications with the most market share will always be the winners in the end.  Make it cheep and get the market share then figure out how you can make money on add ons.  Total cost of ownership is a huge factor in decision making.  It would be good to consider making the base application free and then you can always make more money on add ons the same way games are making so much money on skins and in game purchases.

  • Guest commented
    21 Mar, 2019 08:27pm

    That is supper idea.   why no one thought about this before.  

  • Guest commented
    6 Feb, 2019 02:11am

    The domino express license is already quiet generous and the ROI for express license users is already high IF they implement the server correctly and make use of the templates. Reducing the license cost might be an option, but the trick is in improving the overall UI and functionality. If HCL/IBM do go this route, then a cloud only based version would be more appropriate.

  • Guest commented
    21 Dec, 2018 07:40am

    Free is not an option, it can be free for 1 year. If company see value , they will stay and will pay

  • Guest commented
    5 Oct, 2018 08:49am

    I totally agree.  Only way to be back on the market is to create a good base of users / customers, that can check how powerful is and how easily can add value to their business, without having to buy an additional server for database,  add LDAP,  security,  apps engine, etc......    Customer prefers to install MongoDB Community Edition, a free LDAP Server, and a Node.js engine because they have not fees, and is easy to do (just a click away).  If you give them all of that free,  for small business (less than 100 users), they base of people knowning domino will increase,   and we will be able to introduce our products on other areas later on.

  • Guest commented
    6 Sep, 2018 07:39pm

    Even if you have to pay for it at CA$219 up front per user license and the 20% support/year costs, it is a LOT less than a set of MS Office 365 / MS SharePoint / Exchange enterprise licenses plus all the hardware you need, plus Domino runs on RHEL very happily - don't need Windows servers...and Red Hat keeps server software up to date almost painlessly (not to mention Linux just keeps on running...!)

  • Guest commented
    28 Aug, 2018 11:14pm

    I agree this is a similar post to the free student / educational license. I've already commented on this under that request. This is similar to the Canonical Ubuntu model. The client is free, support from Canonical or a business partner is a paid subscription. This is a good idea, too. Most people will go for the free and then finally bite for an issue they cannot easily get the solution from a web search.

  • Guest commented
    22 Aug, 2018 12:19pm

    @20th August.

    But if you do put it on the Internet for (say) occasional use by a few of many customers accessing a web page, then a small 20 user company like ours has to pay £15,000 for a Domino Utility Server lic. Which is quite a lot of money for a small company. AFAIK

  • Guest commented
    20 Aug, 2018 10:12am

    I don't think free (as in beer) has worked well with IBM software in the past as it is a for profit company. Domino licenses are inexpensive especially if you use custom apps and don't put it on the Internet (public website).
    I work for a company with 35 employees. There is a lot of discussion around Notes and Domino in our company but licensing cost has never been an issue for the last 10 years.

    There are third party add-ons for Notes and Domino that cost a furtune more than IBM software maintenance.

  • Guest commented
    16 Aug, 2018 10:47am

    There should be a free Community Edition version, in order to boost the Notes/Domino ecosystem (e.g. Domino Docker-based applications).

    Profit could be made with support contracts, additional features, partner services and a Notes App store.

  • Guest commented
    13 Aug, 2018 08:32pm

    or older versions (2 version back)

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